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ריב"ן ד"ה מתניתא בסו"ד "כך לשון ח"ה."
אשמח בפתרון ר"ת אלו.

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חותני הגאון
חותני האהוב
חותני הצדיק
חותני הקדוש
חותני המחבר
ועוד.

אני חושב שמילת התואר "הגדול" - אף שלכאורה היא מתקבלת כיפה ונכונה - עדיין היא חסרה את העוצמה והתואר המבוטא במילה אחת כבדוגמאות לעיל,

אבל בעיקר אני מציין שוב שלא נמצא כלל הצירוף: "חותני הגדול"","233","","2343","True","True","False","","140","109.65.85.201","0","53600","מכות|כא ע"א",""),new Message("53615","53608","אודה על הפניה בה כתבו האחרונים:","29/11/17 10:32","יא כסלו","תשע"ח","10:32","יהודי_קדום",""חותני הגדול".
בפרוייקט השו"ת המעודכן ביותר לא נמצא הצירוף: "חותני הגדול".","233","","2343","True","True","False","","127","109.65.85.201","0","53600","מכות|כא ע"א",""),new Message("53617","53614","תאורים הנ"ל אינם מתאימים לתקופת הראשונים","29/11/17 11:06","יא כסלו","תשע"ח","11:06","דוד כוכב","בשו"ת מהרש"ל סימן צח: קבלתי מחמי הגדול מהר"ר קלונימוס ז"ל.
יש גם "הישיש" ובעיקר "הרב".","125","","2343","True","True","False","","158","213.151.48.50","0","53600","מכות|כא ע"א",""),new Message("53624","53617","ריב"ן חי מאות שנים לפני המהרש"ל, כך","29/11/17 12:06","יא כסלו","תשע"ח","12:06","יהודי_קדום","שלא הבנתי מה באה הדוגמא ללמד:
ריב"ן שהיה מהראשונים כתב חותני הגדול ולא כתב חותני הגאון, הקדוש וכו' (משום שאינם מתאימים לתקופתו - כפי שכתב).
אבל גם המהרש"ל, בדוגמא, שחי מאות שנים אחרי ריב"ן כתב חמי הגדול

וגם:
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